Unai Emery

I’d say for at least 50 percent of teams in the Premier League it says nothing. Mid table and lower placed teams have a goal difference of around 0 or negative (lots of goals conceded in comparison with goals scored). But not all will have a defensive style. How would you be able to distract anything from that? Mancester City actually conceded the lowest amount of goals this season, but are by far the most attacking side.

And the best defensively, they aren’t mutually exclusive.

And you are obscuring the issue a bit by now making it about goal difference which is the two stats combined, when I thought we were talking about either goals scored or goals conceded.

But I take your point and actually was making a similar one to my Chelsea mates when they brought up goals scored to deride me for saying they were boring under Mourinho.

I think I was just picking at the word “nothing”, because I think that’s a bit too strong a statement. Probably needlessly picky of me but I can’t help my nature

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https://twitter.com/arseblog/status/999545556887330816?s=19

ORNSTEINNNNNNN ON THE ARSECAST YESSSSSSSSSS

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Podcast any good?

I found this and similar posts man, you used to rate Emery a lot, and I hope he can show that version of himself here. I think a lot of them were on the old forum.

Surely you can give him a chance @AbouCuellar and see if he becomes that manager you rated again?

I do love his english, despite non being perfect.

From Emery to english
From english to Emery

:smile:

hope he is impressed with the video equipment. The magic will happen in this room. COYG

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He’s in for a nasty surprise if his tactics are shift it to the right and expect Bellerin to deliver a good ball.

I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt and say that’s Wenger’s board.

Get close to box and pass backwards. Absolutely it is.

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I can’t wait for the season to start .
New manager, new ideas , a new buzz about the Emirates.
From the sound of Emery’s press conference the players are going to made to work hard when we have possession but even harder when we don’t.
This is a new exciting era .
COYG

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Must have taken the cleaning staff weeks to clear the dust in this room. Probably why the announcement took so long.

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:arteta::arteta:

Nah, one I rated him based on ‘propaganda’ from sevillistas and spanish rags that I fell for too much (MARCA and AS), based on the idea that he was a sort of ideal moneyball manager having worked under Monchi and done well, thinking that he was a more positive manager than he actually is (something he proved at PSG), and yeah, without having seen how pathetic of a manager he was at a big club.

Later, when you do a bit more research into his time at Valencia and Sevilla, which looks good enough when you do a brief glance–which is what I had done at the time–or when you listen to euphoric Sevillistas off the back of a third Europa League win and under the great that is Monchi, you see that there are definite cracks in the CV there, and the work isn’t quite as impressive at looks at that brief, mentioned, glance.

Even when I was trumpeting him as a candidate two years ago, before his embarrassing spell at PSG–and yes, @arsenescoatmaker, it was embarrassing, but it’s not worth arguing with you to explain why if you don’t get it already–less easy to hype people like @A.F. were (in retrospect, rightly) questioning his record and the hype people like me were giving him.

In short, I think he’s pretty crap, I thought his tactics in the second leg of Barça were about as pitiful as I’ve seen (and that’s without even talking about the second leg of Madrid this season…that lineup :joy:), and everything I’ve seen from his time at PSG, including facing off against Wenger twice, reminds me of that. In fact that was just a couple months into his first season and I was already realising that @A.F. was right and he was not an interesting manager at all. And, to finish it off, watching an hour and a half of him talking with Julio 'Maldini" Maldonado and finding Maldini probably to be the more interesting football mind (in fairness to Emery, Maldini is interesting as fuck, he’s just not a manager…not unlike Emery, who isn’t a very good one) basically confirmed everything I’ve learned about him in these past two years.

But who am I to take away from you all’s post-Wenger novelty high? Enjoy it while it lasts, I wish I could have it too.

What I’m hoping for is that the burden of a job where an expectation of positive football is there makes him change radically, and the fact that he’s perhaps young enough to still evolve a bit, but tbh that’s a pretty farsical hope, there’s much more chances of that kind of radical change being detrimental than it being beneficial in reality, and as we’ve seen with Mourinho, and all the times he’s promised to evolve his style to a positive one at United, managers will inevitably go back to what they really are in the end.

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I’m with you on some things, and I slated him hard for those CL exits, so me celebrating this would be a fake thing to do.

But I want to believe. Also, if l, as you said, the Sevilla success can be down to Monchi, the PSG failures in Europe may also be down to that squad.

I guess we will find out by seeing how Tuchel gets on.

But the way that PSG squad sounds like is the Netherlands teams at the world cup, and if they stay like that they will never win a CL.

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30 year dynasty winning the CL 10 times…in a row. Win the CL 9 more times. Hair grows back.

I can’t really see it, that PSG team is about as obvious an example of poor managing as you can get.

I mean, that Barça tie was pathetic, I remember people praising PSG’s first leg performance and I said at the time–literally right after the match*, that wasn’t that impressive of a performance from PSG, that was just an absolutely dire performance from Barça. He somehow managed to bungle the second leg with some of the most embarrassing tactics I can remember in a single game, and Barça confirmed how there for the taking they were by going out meekly against Juve.

The rest of his reign there is really much of the same. 93 pts with that squad in Ligue 1 really is not an achievement, it’s kinda the opposite. And as good as that Monaco squad was, an equally well managed PSG squad still wins that title…of course, it was not equally well managed under Emery.

^EDIT: just realised this second post, which was made just a few months ago, was liked by none other than @Luca_from_Italy , who is ALL ABOARD the Emery hype train. :grimacing: Ay Luquita…

Well I guess we’ll find out.

Tuchel has a similar stature and reputation to Emery when he first arrived at PSG. Seeing how he gets on will be very interesting but I predict he’ll run into the same issues Emery encountered

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This is where superficial looks at CVs and all this bollocks ‘experience’ talk lets you down. Tuchel has nothing to do with Emery. Far far far far better manager.

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So we stole West Ham’s #1 Striker target, and now we stole their #1 managing target. Things are looking up at The Arsenal I must say! :thinking: