There’s nothing to shut down, you had a once in a generation referendum, your population voted to be part of the Union, that’s that.
**I’d say the UK that Scotland voted to be a part of in 2014 is vastly different to the UK of today. Sturgeon always said a material change of circumstance where a majority of Scots would change their minds and ask for independence would cause her to look at IndyRef 2.
Anyone who thinks Brexit is not a major change in circumstance is lying to themselves. Especially when you can see that Scots would be miffed knowing that they voted to stay in but now have to leave along with the UK because of this Union.**
It’s ludicrus to assume a ton of taxpayers money and politicians time will go into another referendum especially when Brexit needs time and energy. And why would a government have a referendum during a time of economic uncertainty?
**Uncertainty caused by the wonderful leadership the UK government has bestowed upon us.
The SNP have been elected to do the best for Scotland. If staying in the EU and assuming the UK’s membership is what is best for Scotland, and the only way to do that would be to leave the UK before the Article 50 process is complete, then surely the SNP are only doing their jobs when they explore this option further?
For me, instead of wasting time and money, they are looking out for the people they govern. Remember this bill is goin for consultation right now ONLY, and is in its very early stages.
And to the notion that ‘Brexit needs time and energy’
You’re not wrong when you say that but what can the Scottish government really do when it comes to Brexit? Nobody in Scotland voted for it, they don’t want it, and when it is time to renegotiate the trade deals, Theresa May’s Tory government isn’t exactly going to ask ‘what’s best for Scotland?’
In fact, I’d say the best time to do it in terms of preserving resources would be before article 50 is finished. It would be a no fuss no muss ‘which union you want? UK or EU?’ Type deal with a much smaller campaign and many of the organisations/activist groups are already in place. There isn’t a much better time to be holding another one imo.
Look all that’s going to happen is the nationalists will keep voting SNP in the general election, which is Tories wet dream anyway because Englanders don’t want a Labour/SNP coalition so will vote Tory to prevent it. The Tories will have 30years of government before they see a challenge the way it’s heading and it’s in no small part because of the SNP.
**Maybe. But then, if independence does occur, it will hurt the credibility of whoever the prime minister is at the time. And the party in charge. They would be known as the party that oversaw the breakup of the UK. Right now that is the Tories.
The bleeding hearts of middle England love that Britannia stuff, so they would be well annoyed if their Union was weakened. Then Labour could go about winning people over by saying, 'Look, the Tory party playing politics to keep their right wing MPs and members have fucked our country’s standing massively and caused a bit of it to fuck off too.
I would actually say that Independence could be a great thing for both Labour parties either side of the border. Scottish Labour could actually try to be competent instead of screaming hysterically about the SNP all the time and UK Labour could focus wholeheartedly on the people that will actually win them the election - the English electorate. They could go about them however they want, but right now trying to appeal to the Brexiteer and the Scottish Nationalist at the same time just isn’t possible and focussing on one will help them keep their message consistent.**