Santi Cazorla


#161

The fuck, is this twitter lol?

Cazorla is instrumental in everything good we do, you don’t even have to pay much attention to a game to notice that when he plays well, we play well. Hell I’d even say we’re almost unplayable.

He fills a void that not only allows Ozil the freedom to ghost through a defense but also stops Alexis coming back to the half way line every two minutes to try and receive the ball.

Now while I do agree with you that Cazorla is not the be all and end all of midefielders it’s absolutely criminal that Wenger, a man who preaches a certain system, would sabotage his own style of football by relying on a 31 year old with severe achilles problems. I thought Xhaka would perhaps be a suitable replacement but Wenger clearly doesn’t even seem to know why he bought him.


#162

I agree with all of the above. He still doesn’t dominate games though. Much like Ozil; he is a cog that can work in harmony with others, but isn’t the archetypal all action ‘I will win this game’ type.

Which, coincidentally, I hope to god we acquire soon.


#163

Another sad injury story.

Rather we just changed our formation or tactics now tbh. No one else in the squad is fit to lace Santi’s boots in centre mid.

Obviously not going to happen though. Can’t see us doing well for the remainder of 2016 at the moment.

Can only hope for some signs of encouragement.


#164

Biglia isn’t good to be the playmaker of the squad, Mascherano is in the end phase of his career, Enzo Perez isn’t a central midfielder, Banega is ever out of the squad.

Santi Ascacibar, from Estudiantes, will be the next craque. Paredes should follow him but after his mistake against Atalanta, I’m not sure.


#165

If Wilshere continues to complete 90mins throughout the majority of the season, can see him replacing Santi next year.


#166

If we’re putting all our money on a sicknote we should have just bought Gundogan.


#167

We should just get Dahoud and be done with it.

Fitness wise Santi has been very good over the years but we should be ushering in his long term successor, Dahoud fits the bill perfectly. Jack is an option but he’d need to be groomed under a new manager and then there’s the obvious fitness issues.

Xhaka could be the man also, he has all the tools to become the midfield controller we need. Long term I kinda hope he’ll become an Alonso/Kroos hybrid.


#168

I don’t know if I wasn’t paying enough attention in those games, but I thought Xhaka looked rather unsuitable to the main DLP role.

Xhaka-Cazorla on the other hand seemed ideal and that’s where I can see Xhaka taking over in the future.

Would be interested to hear what gives some of you the impression that Xhaka can do well in the box to box role from what you’ve seen.

Maybe Santi is such a talismanic player that it’s easy to be harsh on anyone that just isn’t a like for like replacement.

I hope our next big signing is a top world renown DLP. That way if we keep Santi and bring back Wilshere, we would be assured for the whole season in a key area.


#169

What makes you say he’s unsuitable as main DLP? That’s where his future lies IMO.

He’s essentially a complete midfielder in that he can run games, tackle, intercept and defend in the air whilst also posing a goal threat. Since he isn’t the quickest I think he would benefit playing beside someone who would be tasked with doing more of the running and b2b duties.

There’s still plenty of upside with Xhaka and long term central midfield needs to be built around him so he needs a player that compliments him and I don’t think Santi does.


#170

Yes he can do these things, but only in small doses. Xhaka hasn’t given the impression thus far that he can boss the midfield. His lack of pace and dodgy positioning at times still raises question marks.

However his passing and aggression can’t be questioned, he obviously has these in abundance. I cannot see Xhaka doing great in our system as a B2B. For me he has to sit behind or next to someone more mobile and energetic. For example, a pair of Elneny and Xhaka potentially could be awful…but Coq-Xhaka or Santi-Xhaka would suit him more.


#171

I think it’s more than small doses, he’s been known to do all that for fun for Gladbach and Switzerland and to a fairly high degree. He hasn’t quite been given the opportunity here yet but I think that’s more to do with him acclimatising himself to the league and obviously playing here is a different prospect.

To be a controller of the midfield the need for pace is overblown, Pirlo, Xavi, Alonso, Modric , Kroos, Santi, Scholes et al are not known for their pace. Of course these guys were/are at the apex of world football but the point remains.

I’m not lumping Xhaka with them as he has a long way to go but he’s still quite young and can still vastly improve, I agree with him not being an ideal b2b player though I said something similar. A pivot of Xhaka and Jack might have potential, Xhaka/Coq would be fine also. I’m not sure about Santi because he needs someone more mobile which perhaps why don’t seem to played together often.

If Santi is out though Xhaka must play as we lose all semblance of control without him, Elneny is at most ‘neat and tidy’. Xhaka is the only one who can hope to replicate what Santi brings to an extent.


#172

Hmm…not so sure about this. Wenger has always had a mental block about players over a certain age (the old back 5 aside perhaps). In reality we can’t even accuse him of doing that this season considering he brought in Xahka.


#173

Looking at how long Mertesacker and Arteta stayed in starting roles that bias went out of the window some time ago.


#174

Regardless of the how’s or whys Mertesackers replacement was bought before he turned 32.

Probably more to do with injury than anything but Arteta wasnt a stater his last two seasons here really.

I’m not convinced those examples prove anything.


#175

Who knows what Wenger sees Granit as, using Ramsey ahead of him tonight & Elneny ahead of him vs Man United.


#176

Wasn’t Arteta not starting due to injury? I really cant remember what happened there.


#177

#178

Is that good?!


#179

Well, at least it hasn’t gone worse.


#180

Stable just a buzz word for December.