(N)Everrrrr Banega

[Jules]

I spoke to the Spanish guy down my local shop, and even he said your argument was, and I quote, a steaming pile of bullshit.

[AbouCuellar]

[SwissGooner]

the Spanish guy down my local shop

Credible SAUCE this.

[JakeyBoy]

Hahahaha

[shamrockgooner]

Probably my favourite off topic discussion ever this

[Jules]

Well he does speak fluent Spanish, Italian and English

[Craigie]

Well he does speak fluent Spanish, Italian and English

Not fluent Scottish though so he’s really not placed to have an opinion.

[Jules]

He is a drunk though. Does that count?

[Electrifying]

Don’t mind me

[Gladiator]

The short answer is because there isn’t a single link that shows this

Ahem, yes there are. Wikipedia comes quite handy.

The alveolar trill is a type of consonantal sound, used in many spoken languages.

The alveolar tap or flap is a type of consonantal sound, used in some spoken languages.

In most Indo-European languages, the sound is at least occasionally allophonic with an alveolar tap [ɾ], particularly in unstressed positions. Exceptions include Albanian, Spanish, Cypriot Greek, and a number of Armenian and Portuguese dialects, which treat them as distinct phonemes.

Now this last block of quotes only lists the languages that have the exact same r as the ‘spanish’, while that sound is also present in a much longer list of languages that UnaiCuellar claims don’t exist, albeit the formation of the sound may be built in a different way.

Back to your original statement, your whole argument is based on and consequently backed by argumentation that Spanish is difficult for languages that don’t possess that sound, however it is quite easy to replicate for native speakers of languages that have the same sound or similar, which by the way are a lot, including myself. All you can do is revolve around English, German, French, Japanese and pretend all other languages = English, so English speakers can’t really speak Spanish.

You stupid ignorant pendejo.

[sevchenko]

Arsènic™ (MrArsenicTM)

[Maverick79]

You stupid ignorant pendejo.

[Jules]

You stupid ignorant pendejo.

[Castiel]

Now this is OA back to it’s motherfucking best.

[LordBendtner]

So disappointed. 66 new posts and its all pointless drivel about spanish R’s. Just thought we had signed BaneGOD ffs ! :bellerin:

[Calum]

66 new posts and its all pointless drivel

Welcome to OA

[LordBendtner]

Thanks mate. I love it so far. So many types of posters

[jonboylondon]

Thanks mate. I love it so far. So many types of posters

And posterrerrerrres…

[Maverick79]

@jonboylondon

And posterrerrerrres…

Don’t forget to roll those r’s

[AbouCuellar]

Back to your original statement, your whole argument is based on and consequently backed by argumentation that Spanish is difficult for languages that don’t possess that sound, however it is quite easy to replicate for native speakers of languages that have the same sound or similar, which by the way are a lot, including myself. All you can do is revolve around English, German, French, Japanese and pretend all other languages = English, so English speakers can’t really speak Spanish.

You stupid ignorant pendejo.

Except I never did this. What I said was:

The only people capable of pronouncing the spanish r are us native Spanish speakers

spanish is difficult because the r is pronounced that way doesn’t exist in any other language, except somewhat in scottish. Hence why someone from another country in England or America can live there for 40 years and be confused for a native but the reverse phenomenon can’t really occur in a spanish speaking country.

You’ve still not understood the point, but wanna be smart asses will be wanna be smart asses.

Love that you think that you’re somehow providing new information . I’d love to hear you pronounce the spanish r and be confused for a native, you certainly must be a new phenomenon not yet documented! Please, come to Spain, you can be a phenomenon Gladiator, oh special one!

By the way, you also still haven’t realised you’ve looked at a wikipedia article that isn’t even talking about the spanish r, but rather the /rr/…again, much congrats for realising that the overarching idea of the trilled r exists in a number of languages, enjoy your imaginary smart ass badge and please do for your own good stop making an absolute ass of yourself, because you’re talking utter shite and it’s pretty hilarious!