Mesut Özil (11)


#3419

Each person has they reasons. Secondly we have no right to judge other countries ways of doing things, since ours have flaws of its own.

But on an individual level maybe he still has a connection to his origin country, and the president is doing a PR stunt on top of that.


#3420

Same here in Denmark. There’s been a lot of clashes between Kurds and Turks here and Erdogan tried sending his minister here to hold rallies and influence Danish-Turks to vote in the Turkish election for him.


#3421

Wow. It boggles my mind a bit how nonchalant people can be about what Erdogan is doing.


#3422

Same for Danish and Dutch Turks.

Especially since they live here where they can get all of benefits of Danish liberties, progression and freedom and don’t have to deal with living under a dictatorship.

Like those Brexiteer wanks that retired to Spain but still voted to leave.


#3423

I understand that most won’t link Arsenal and Erdogan’s regime, but he should just be careful when getting involved in a political party’s propaganda stunt because it may reflect badly not just him but the club.

Also everyone should have the right to judge Erdogan and the Turkish political system. Ours is far from flawless, as is our history, but I really wish people would stop using this argument to shelter dictators from genuine criticism.


#3424

Not really a surprise, tbh. Albeit i don’t like it, Erdogan has a big support from turkish abroad.


#3425

Lol


#3426

Just throwing it out there…what about being critical of both. But like, more critical of one.


#3427

You do realise Kurds have never considered themselves as Turks, and before Erdogan got in to power there were clashes between the two right.

Kurds have never classed themselves as Turks and want their own state.


#3428

Perfectly fine. As long as you don’t try to force you political ideas on to others unwilling to accept them.


#3429

No shit mate. What’s it got to do with what I’ve said?


#3430

Try around $10 a pop for a pint in Melbourne, I still drink at pubs with the lads but only really when I’m going to the footy. But truth be told I rarely drink at home or during the week at all. All in all silly alcohol prices Australia, I’m probably just fortunate I’m well paid enough I can have a pub session once a week if I want.


#3431

Your preference means fuck all.


#3432

What an enlightening post. A little disappointing though I must say, I was kind of hoping Ozil might read this and reconsider his behaviour in future.


#3433

Was just going to do that haha.

@AbouCuellar Turkey is anything but small brah, Istanbul is bigger than London.


#3434

Title is a bit click baity


#3435

“I remember just before I left to the stadium I had a call from the president of Paris Saint-Germain asking me: ‘Have you done the deal or not? Because we want to do it. And I said: 'Please don’t touch, it’s finished.’”

:rofl:


#3436

Big Wenga’s gift :slight_smile:


#3437

Tancredi ‘The Tanc’ Palmeri weighs in on this historic day.


#3438

Hahaha that’s called a fragile ego

To be fair if it was anyone but Wenger PSG would’ve pushed it I imagine