Shame, your first post on the matter actually read like satire. 
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No, where did you read this? Canât find anything about it.
I would.
Yeah, just a load of boring apologist chat. Nothing more to say on the topic of Suarezâ attempts to make himself the victim.
I see this biting business as just an extension of your constant apologism with regards to any offence people look down on that isnât as serious as leg breaking tackles. You know, when you do your whole âyou English are so over the top about diving and faking injury, itâs just part of the game. Why donât you focus on leg breaking tackles you philistines?â
I bet youâd have defended him against the ban he received for being a racist cunt because it isnât as bad as a leg breaking tackle.
You probably need to accept that there are certain behaviours that are almost universally condemned even if they arenât violent enough to result in shattered bones and ruined careers.
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he says he doesnât know where heâll be next year, and that he doesnât think heâll continue, because the negotiations arenât going well. Might be more posturing but yeah.
@CunningLinguist Iâll be totally honest, I do enjoy provoking with the SuĂĄrez debate, because I know Iâm one of the very few if any who doesnât find any real issue with his biting, and because I find it funny that people get so bothered or offended by it. But on the other hand I do actually feel like thereâs clearly a bit of mistreatment/covert racism/classism in the treatment of him both by FIFA and the media (when he was in England too, of course), and that his case is a very nice example to point out how misplaced FIFAâs priorities are/how focussed they are on simply covering their own asses.
@JakeyBoy what if he had licked him?
I did defend him for âbeing a racist cuntâ, because it was absolutely fucking absurdly hilarious that he was labeled as such for provoking Evra with provocative talk that is at worst par-for-the-course of what youâll hear on a football pitch, at best pretty lite stuff. And that you call him that is also a kind of indication on the effect on you of the media/society in your country. SuĂĄrez in England was outright xenophobia to be brutally honest, about as obvious a case as it gets.
Well youâve just confirmed all my suspicions, which is nice.
Just out of interest, what do you think Suarez said to Evra? You must have a pretty clear idea if youâve decided that it is par for the course.
He called him ânegritoâ, which is incredibly, incredibly lite, and I guarantee you SuĂĄrez has been called much much worse on a regular basis.
According to SuĂĄrez (declarations which I really donât doubt because theyâre 100% plausible and because I donât see SuĂĄrez being bright enough to make big inventions), Evra had called him sudamericano, which is literally exactly the same. SuĂĄrez was the one punished, though, because of cultural misunderstanding/governing body agendaâs in England.
Tbh, anyone who thinks SuĂĄrez is a racist is out of their fucking mind, and simply didnât understand the situation, pure and simple.
âallĂ (en Uruguay) le llamamos negros sin ningĂșn problema, porque ser negro no es un problema. Ojala en europa tuvieran esa madurez frente a las razas⊠Estar en contra del racismo no es prohibir la palabra ânegroâ, es tomarse las diferencias con naturalidad y hacer que no importen, porque no importan. Poner un velo por delante y decir que todos somos iguales es hipocresĂa, somos todos distintos, muy distintos, pero distinto no significa superior o inferior, ese es el concepto que habrĂa que aplicarse, y no convertir la palabra negro en un tabĂș. Y yo agrego: convertir la palabra ânegro en un tabĂșâ, eso SĂ es racismo.â
âThere (in Uruguay) we call people black (negro) without any problem, because to be black is not a problem. Too bad in Europe they donât seem to have the same maturity level with raceâŠTo be against racism doesnât mean to prohibit the word ânegro/blackâ, but rather to take our differences in stride, naturally and to make them not matter, because they donât. To put a cover on things and say that weâre all the same is hypocrisy, weâre different, very different, but different doesnât mean better or worse, thatâs the concept that needs to be applied, not convert the word âblack/negroâ in taboo. And Iâll go further converting the word âblack/negroâ in taboo, that, actually, IS racism.â
For a start, the bold part, what utter bollocks. Thatâs not a complex lie, it doesnât take any intelligence to lie about someone calling you a rude word before you used one in return. Any idiot could make that up. This is what I mean about your apologism, your desire to make issues about English misunderstandings or culture.
Now explain the context in which he used the word negrito. What was the sentence that word appeared in?
It was childish namecalling, Evra called him sudamericano, SuĂĄrez called him negrito. Itâs what happens on a fucking football pitch, lol. Truly canât believe how gullible (or not so subvertly xenophobic/racist) people are to actually call SuĂĄrez a racist. Itâs genuinely fucking absurd.
So you wonât provide the context. Ok mate.
Also according to you itâs ridiculous for people to think Suarez is a racist because he used a term that specifically refers to someoneâs race in an argument, but youâll then slyly accuse those people of being a bit racist or xenophobic for doing so, when doing so is far less obviously racist than Suarez was.
Youâre genuinely all over the place 
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âĂl empezĂł a discutir conmigo en español y recuerdo que mĂĄs allĂĄ de que me llamĂł
sudamericano no pude entender mĂĄs de lo que decĂa⊠Evra vino en un cĂłrner a preguntarme por quĂ© le habĂa golpeado, algo totalmente hipĂłcrita cuando un defensa se pasa todo el partido golpeandoâ, segĂșn recoge The Guardian.
Leer mĂĄs: Luis SuĂĄrez: âNo soy racistaâ - MARCA.com
ââHe started shouting at me in spanish and I remember that apart from him calling me âsudamericanoâ I couldnât really understand anything else he saidâŠEvra came up to me during a corner to ask me why Iâd hit him, a totally hypocritical question when a defender like him spends the whole match leaving knocks on his opponentâ, according to the Guardian.â"
âNo usĂ© negro en el sentido que tiene en inglĂ©s⊠Es evidente que no pretendĂa ser gentil y amable con Evra al decirle eso, pero no fue un ataque racistaâ, dijo SuĂĄrez. âMi mujer a veces me llama negro y mi abuela llamaba siempre negrito a mi abueloâ.
Leer mĂĄs: Luis SuĂĄrez: âNo soy racistaâ - MARCA.com
âI didnât use ânegroâ in the sense it has in englishâŠItâs obvious I wasnât trying to be sweet and nice with Evra when I said that to him, but it wasnât a racist attack,â SuĂĄrez said. âMy wife sometimes calls me negro and my granny always called my grandpa negrito.â
Negro simply isnât used the same in spanish as it is in English. Itâs used with complete naturality, especially in south America. Itâs totally normal, as SuĂĄrez tells, to call someone who is tan skinned negro or negrito. Like I said, Evra, a foreigner, randomly saying âsudamericanoâ, which just means âsouth americanâ, which heâs clearly saying with a negative connotation, because, why the fuck else would you say sudamericano (surely if Evra had more control of the spanish language he wouldâve used another word, but I digress), is frankly worse sounding than saying negrito. Negrito just sounds like youâre trying to be obnoxious and provocative, it doesnât sound remotely racist. A foreigner randomly saying sudamericano, on the other hand, strikes me as more likely to be revealing of racist/xenophobic attitudes, and tbh, if on a random street corner in spain you went up to a black person and said ey, negrito, itâs highly unlikely any offence would be taken, whereas if you went up to a random south american and said ey, sudamericano, it sounds a lot worse, frankly.
Hope thatâs enough context for you. You couldâve just taken my word for the fact that the whole SuĂĄrez racism thing is a massive joke that a whole lot of you in England have allowed yourselves to be taken in on, and while it probably doesnât apply to you, subvert racism/xenophobia/classism towards people like SuĂĄrez certainly played a part in such a stupid misconception going over so easily.
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If Real Sociedad today they go fourth. Massive pressure on Atletico.
Im not biting.
Well I could have done but why would I when I think youâve been talking shit in this thread?
Tbh you throwing the word xenophobia around when you seem to enjoy belittling English people and their values with regards to football is a bit of a laugh. But please carry on, itâs amusing rather than offensive.
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Real Sociedad up at HT.
Youâve got your negroes well reined in, eh?
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Who wouldnât? Theyâre shit values. Belittling shit values or poor, xenophobic treatment and bad understanding of outside cultures isnât xenophobia, though. I think you should look up the definition of the term. 
Nah, negrito is just an incredibly lite term. There are others which you could use which would cause them to be rightfully offended.
Well I think that it being acceptable to refer to someone by their skin colour for no reason in an argument is a shit cultural value, but when the English (the media, me) express this you start throwing around racism and xenophobia.
As I said, youâre all over the place.
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No, thatâs a fine cultural value. A poor cultural value, on the other hand, is selectively deciding when itâs okay to refer to someoneâs race/ethnicity and deciding to punish that person selectively, and another poor cultural value is trying to imperialistically, belligerently apply your cultural values, connotations, and even semantics () to those of all other cultures even when yours frankly is not involved in the question at hand (ie, Evra-SuĂĄrez was a dispute that took place between a Frenchman and an Uruguayan, in spanishâŠshould the fact it happened to occur on an english football pitch mean that english cultural values, even english language connotations and semantic judgments should reign in the matter? 
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According to you it is.
Well yes, of course. When you play in England and the English league who elseâs values should be applied?! You need to be consistent, how on earth do you achieve that if in each case you base it on the nationalities of those involved? That results in people being punished differently based on the country they are from.
No, youâve misunderstood (tbh, I wasnât very clear): Iâm saying itâs a fine cultural value to think that referring to someoneâs skin colour for no reason in an argument is a shit cultural value.
The rest of the post should make more sense to you now.
Donât you realise how absurd that is? So if Bale and Guidetti have an argument in english during a La Liga match, and if they happen to use a cognate that has a different connotation in spanish/Spain, and are punished because of that, it all makes sense, then?!
I see youâve rather selectively (:coq:
:campbell:) decided to avoid this part, btw